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Tracing a conservative slogan's chronological arc from an inconspicuous tagline to a regurgitated maxim of secessionists, segregationists, proto-fascists, neo-fascists, and duplicitous Right-wing political critters.

we are a republic not a democracy spread with james madison tugging on his collar

(this is an updated version of the article posted May 10, 2023. There was a technical issue, so this first part is split into two sections. Then we carry on with the remaining 3 parts. This can be read over on Medium as well.)
The American system of government is packed with old conundrums and intricacies. Those who passed their high school AmGov classes may remember learning that its founding documents are not exactly the most straight forward. The world’s oldest constitution exudes a sense of “flying by the seat of one’s pants while trying to sound fancy.” Good or bad, most modern nations have since attempted to make their charters more updatable and more verbose to smartly avoid legal confusions and misinterpretations.
From the outside, it is almost mesmerizing how every other Supreme Court decision tends to be some epic game-changer boiling down to pithy interpretations of 250-year-old vaguery and vibes. As well, an incessant American addiction to embracing ahistoric viewpoints helps little and their adoption by disingenuous political characters with poor understanding of etymology seems to make the political waters even muddier.
Frankly, the particularly untidy issue of how to classify the United States of America’s structure of government has already been beaten to death by a plethora of well-written academic literature and dissertations from fellow history-nerds. If quibbling over political theories were a pack of horses, they would have been a vat of glue well before any of our grandparents were born. To the vast majority of Americans, the nomenclature means much less than how it works or how they are represented in a land that purports to be created by “We The People” to establish justice and keep themselves generally healthy, safe, and secure.
Despite the country’s original architects being overly concerned with snazzy wording as they cobbled together a nation as technologically advanced as a contemporary Amish community, there has been a long line of smug pedants who go out of their way to whip out the ol’ “We are a Republic, Not a Democracy” trope at the end of rants over modern issues into the online ether. Almost as if it were some magical mic-drop (a very rare thing in Amish country) we have no choice but to nod and begin praisingly clapping at. Unfortunately most of these self-classifying scholars have not been using it for sincere discussions over antique terms, instead opting to whip it out as justification of divisive political policies that would be detrimental to anybody who was not an already well-off male of European descent.
Much has already been written about the authoritarianism surrounding the invocation of this 7-word canard and the insinuations when invoked by very conservative personalities. Some have nerdily discussed the phrase’s ambiguous usage by a few of America’s founders or how it harks back to America First Committee supporter's writings to later be picked up by their Bircher inheritors. But typically, the discourse tends to gloss over the volumes of antisemitism, moral panickery, classism, xenophobia, and unabashed racism accompanying its usage & the users of the expression.
So a deep spelunking into archives of governmental records, academic publications, newspapers, literature, speeches, and websites galore was undertaken. It may not look it, but we have attempted to tell the quickest story of how this “We’re a Republic Not a Democracy” cliche has been brandished since spawned by the words of “Plubius” in 1787. As we whip through the timeline and profiles, the reader will notice that there is an overwhelming amount of context. Piles of links are provided to help spell out details which would take a chapter or more in a book to break down.
To make this a bit easier for all of us to digest, we have broken this up into 4 parts. The first two follow the historic trail of the idiom’s usage. We then finish with residual but obligatory context, also in two parts, which should give most any sane American a bit of the shudders anytime they hear this cretinous expression going forth.
(in order to save the author & reader some sanity, we will often use “RNAD” when referring to this article’s catchphrase going forth as well)


Plubius

Like an Appeal to some 235-year-old Authority, “We Are A Republic And Not A Democracy” is ultimately referencing Madison’s Federalist #10 essay regarding how to sustain public interests without infringing on the rights of individuals. As “Plubius,” Madison discusses combining elements of democracy and republicanism to create a decentralized system of government to deal with a populace spread out over a capacious confederacy. Endless discussions have been had over what a handful of America’s framers really meant by such terminology and similar remarks since the pseudonymous disquisition appeared on newsprint in the closing months of 1787.
Particularly over the last century, conservatives have proudly pointed to Madison’s prose like it was some kind of final-say. As if history stopped over two centuries ago and words’ meanings never evolve or writers are simply humans who can also have different interpretations and blind-spots. Historians and pedantic nerds (like yours truly) tend to point out that “democracy” and “republic” had been used almost interchangeably long before the U.S. signed off on its constitution. Madison and others involved with constructing a novel monarch-less government had already used both terms to refer to their nation. We will come back to this on the backside, but those who penned the essays as “Plubius,” otherwise known as the Federalist Papers, acknowledged that they were using “democracy” specifically to refer to a “pure democracy” (direct democracy as we tend to call it now). Much of it in order to evade having to consider the unfathomable logistics an unfettered system of government for a bulky and inequitable society spread across a landmass, especially in the era of slavery and horse & buggies, required without shooting themselves in their own well-heeled feet.
Making use of some fancy internet sleuthin’ skills (i.e., running wads of terms through a myriad of search filters) we eventually came across an 1818 book with looks to be one of the earliest passages declaring that “the United States is not a democracy” because “illustrious sages” of the Constitutional Convention had thoughtfully built in “the wisdom and energy of aristocracy” to temper the “turbulence” & “fluctuation and weakness of unbalanced democracy.” Nevertheless, as per John Bristed’s America and Her Resources, the novice nation was a “representative republic […] obliged to exist too much by exciting and following the passions and prejudices of the multitude.” The chief crux of the book was cautioning that allowing immigrants and Free Blacks to be involved in any component of the local, state, or federal political process would lead to the country’s suicide.

the notion of its being considered or conducted as a democracy. And many very elaborate and able arguments, founded on a careful induction from facts recorded in history, and resting on the basis of the most approved principles of political philosophy^ were adduced to prove that the general government of the United States is not a democracy, but that care had been taken by the General Convention, which met at Philadelphia, in the year 1787, to infuse, as much as existing circumstances would allow, of the wisdom and energy of aristocracy, to temper and restrain the turbulence, the fluctuation, and the weakness of unbalanced democracy, which they emphatically declared to be the greatest misfortune that could be inflicted of any country.
The 500 page tome also stressed the evils of slavery. More so for fear of slave-owners’ safety, if their slaves would ever have the gumption to revolt against their “masters.” Being opposed to slavery on the grounds of not wanting to be around Black people was not all that uncommon in abolitionist circles. Bristed did his part by proposing that the “wretched African race” be sent back to help civilize the “immense continent of Africa, containing a hundred and fifty millions of Mahomedans and Pagans, steeped in ignorance, superstition, brutality, vice, and crime.”
Bristed’s book set the uncanny tone for the rhetoric and the persuasion of people who would subsequently employ anti-democratic and RNAD verbiage to bolster unnerving political positions within specious arguments that basically amounted to the “othering” of their fellow countrymen. Revulsion to any demographic change is now a very familiar fash-y dinger and although this was less than a generation into a new America, he was by far not the first to cry about his less-than-white neighbors. (here's looking at you Benjamin Franklin) But to promote his proposed fixes for fabricated issues, such as using the gallows for minor crimes to curb a burgeoning population of non-English immigrants and Black people, Bristed had to really sell it. Like an early-19th century version of a recent tweet from some blue-checked white-replacement-obsessed account that the current CEO of Xchan regularly interacts with, the Episcopalian clergyman (and immigrant) had his rage-farming shtick down:

“The free blacks which swarm in our northern and middle states are generally idle, vitious [vicious], and profligate, with very little sense of moral obligation to deter them from lying, thieving, and still more atrocious crimes. For some winters past, a gang of free blacks used to amuse themselves in the city of New- York, by setting fire to whole rows of houses, for the purpose of pilfering amidst the confusion and horror of the flames.”

The sparse amount uncovered from online print and governmental records suggests that the polemical RNAD was overall atypical for the next half century. Yet discussions concerning what was and was not “democratic” about the fledgling nation and the fundamentals which made up its relatively progressive and dynamic society became en vogue. Authors and journalists visiting from Europe, like Touqueville, built careers based around this discourse. Democratic movements beyond the eastern shores of the Atlantic bloomed in fits & starts, depending on how oppressive or progressive the local authorities decided to be.
Engraved portrait of John C. "the OG Neckbeard" Calhoun. Stock Montage/Getty Images

Nullification & Slavery

It would be irresponsible not to shine a brief spotlight on South Carolina's John C. Calhoun (DR/D-SC) and the Nullification Crisis of the early 1830s. Although quite the neckbeard-rocking nationalist in his early political career, Calhoun was an exceptionally racist (even for his time) defender of slavery who resigned from being Andrew Jackson’s vice-president to represent South Carolina’s attempt to void federal tariffs. Calhoun professed that all states are sovereign entities and the Constitution was only a compact of separate sovereign states who have the right to annul federal laws which they may deem unconstitutional. In reality, the Constitution’s Article III and Supremacy Clause, as well as several Federalist papers, including Madison’s № 39 and № 44, make it clear that states cannot just abrogate federal law and would instead need to take it up with the Supreme Court.
The banal “States’ Rights” is simply repackaged Calhoun’s “concurrent majority,” the principle underpinning his doctrine of nullification. To prevent tyranny of the “majority” (free-states not reliant on the 3/5ths clause for electoral college or Congressional representation), the “minority” (slave-states) can void federal laws like those concerning tariffs, anti-slavery, anti-segregation, voting rights, or health care access.
We should note that while Calhoun had used RNAD to describe his home-state of South Carolina a few years prior, he directly referred to the “Federal Republic” as also being a “Constitutional Democracy” designed by “the immortal framers of our Constitution” in 1841. And although peculiarly remembered as a “defender of minorities,” he was quite clear that the only minority he cared protecting was a slave-holding South, demonstrating that the opposition to federal tariffs were a precursor for a fight to maintain slavery’s legality. Small wonder that the RNAD argument harnessed to “fend off a tyranny of the majority” would become part of the conservative “States’ Rights” jargon a century later. As historian Richard Hofstadter put it…

“Not in the slightest was Calhoun concerned with minority rights as they are chiefly of interest to the modern liberal mind — the rights of dissenters to express unorthodox opinions, of the individual conscience against the State, least of all of ethnic minorities. At bottom he was not interested in any minority that was not a propertied minority. The concurrent majority itself was a device without relevance to the protection of dissent, designed to protect a vested interest of considerable power ... it was minority privileges rather than minority rights that he really proposed to protect.”

Another anti-democracy panjandrum of the era, Orestes Brownson, was the originator of the xenophobic-laden term “Americanization” and a pioneer in the national pastime of obsessing over the downfall of the country, believing that democracy would “lower the standard of morality, to enfeeble intellect, to abase character, and retard civilization.”

”...our Government is not a Democracy, but a Constitutional Republic ... That just in proportion as we resolve it practically into a Democracy, do we destroy its character as a government.”

Brownson argued that the biggest national threat lied in affording any autonomy to the unpropertied working class of the cities, which would somehow lead to an aristocracy of elected wealthy business owners. Interesting given that the Constitution’s Framers essentially constructed something that, although progressive for its time, would technically be considered an oligarchy built on many affluent familial ties. And seeing as how less than a century later wealthy industrialists would make an inverted argument against democracy, in a Mencken-esque way, he was not wholly incorrect. Of course it would be expected that a government built as a republic (a political parallel to a company ran by a board of directors) would not also turn into “a government run like a business” (a now familiar leitmotif of many conservative political campaigns). Brownson, though, was very clear that his version of the republic would be a theocracy led by the Church of Rome in order to rescue the country from ruin.
Despite the nullification crisis and other disagreements nudging America towards a civil war, the expression that had emanated from Federalist №10 still rarely popped up in public discourse until pro-slavery congressmen began to thrown it around in 1858 to complain about Kansas becoming a free state, a la Rep. George Taylor (D-NY), or to make Calhoun-y Madison-invoking speeches, from the likes of Senator Clement Claiborne Clay (D-AL), about a republic being the only “stable and conservative” form of government which could keep slavery in the South from being ended by some tyrannical equality-minded democracy.
Eerie utterances to see 160 years on, but we should keep in mind that a few years later Clay became a conspicuous member of the Confederate’s Congress, co-created a network of secret spies for the South, suspected of organizing Lincoln’s assassination, and whose face was printed on their money.

“No sentiment is more insulting or more hostile to our domestic tranquility, to our social order, and to our social existence, than is contained in the declaration that our negroes are entitled to liberty and equality with the white man.”   —Senator Clement Clay

CLAIRBONES Confederate $1 bill

1880s Political Campaigns and an Eccentric Anti-Suffragist

The US Civil War was distracting enough that, for at least a couple of decades, few cared to ponder the specificity of the country’s descriptor. Instead, political creatures of all stripes applied both terms mostly interchangeably. But in 1882, to give a taster of what was to come a half-century later, the Republican Party drafted a textbook of campaign talking points as a response to the 1876 election, in which the Democratic candidate received 184 uncontested electoral votes to the Republican’s 165.
Four states returned 20 votes-worth of disputed electors, which Hayes ® needed in order to win the presidency. The resulting Electoral Commission and the 1877 Compromise essentially ended Reconstruction, leaving Blacks with negligible political support and protections in the South under Jim Crow laws. (The debacle also led to the 1877 Electoral Count Act and why Pence could not reject electors in January of 2021.)
Going forward, as per the Republican manual, campaigns were to emphasize that if enough voters in low-population states are represented by a majority of electors overall, even when vastly outnumbered by the votes in heavily populated states, then the election should be considered legit. Non-Americans looking in could justifiably dub this “tyranny of the minority,” as the campaign textbook pointed out that the six electoral votes of Delaware and Nevada’s 43,824 human votes equaled the same as California’s 154,459. But “American Exceptionalism” also means reveling in lopsided systems as long as one waves the flag the hardest and mendaciously paints “democracy” as the opposite of any constitutional checks and balances, despite contemporary democracies elsewhere having exactly all that enshrined in their own constitutions.
Another aspect of exceptional Americanism is conveniently forgetting recent pasts. The abolitionist establishers of the Republican Party had came up with a very democratic principle for their third plank in their party’s original 1855 platform…

“The people are the rightful source of all political power; and all officers should, as far as practicable, be chosen by a direct vote of the people.”

So the Gilded Age kicked off with the rather exclusive usance of “We’re a Republic, Not a Democracy” by a very privileged monied class of eccentric white people.
In her 1885 book, How We are Governed, lifelong anti-suffragist Anna Laurens Dawes leaned right into the conflation of “democracy” with “pure democracy” to accompany this RNAD verbalism. Even as she perfectly described “democracy” as the choosing of representatives in a large nation like the U.S., she also declaimed “democracy” to be unworkable for large nations such as hers.
Dawes spent much of her life railing against allowing women to vote, maintaining that “feminine nature is unsuited to government” and became famous for two controversial publications. Her philosemetic 1886 The Modern Jew: His Present and his Future book does a decent job predicting the creation of Israel. But as most philosemetism tends to go, it was held a heavy air of antisemetism with its othering-focus on Jewish people, who in her view, were not being expected or able to be an meaningful elements of society.
The rich elitess' 1917 The Indian as Citizen was written to support her father's Dawes Act of three decades prior, which forced Native Americans to assimilate into American society to remove any last vestiges their own self-government.
Who would suspect that an affluent socialite, whose father had written legislation to strip away Native Americans’ governance over their own communities and lands, would be against allowing half the country to cast ballots in their country’s polls and be so oppositional to democracy’s most basic tenets? Honestly at this point, we would.

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(because of some sort of surprise technical issues that we have zero control over, when we came back to edit links and clean up some crappy grammar, we had to delete the first post and then break the first part into two sections in order to update it. So if you are with us, on to part 2 of part 1 of 4) #Democracy #weAreARepublicNotADemocracy #Republic #AmericanHistory #altRight #Libertarian #HeritageFoundation

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Is Project 2025 the “Republic” they keep talking about?

heritage and buckley and koch goobers in front of 15th Amendment

(for easier readin' on rant.li, we published this article in reverse order. and (if you’re lookin’ for Part 1, we got ya))
Considering the Heritage Foundation’s Libertarian™ and fundamentalist ultra-caucasian legacy and membership, little surprise that their new edition of Mandate for Leadership looks as sticky as a Robert Welch wet dream with all the draconian austerity and the purging of “secret Communist” woke government employees to be replaced by weaponized redpilled loyalists.
Project 2025 is like an amalgamation of the intentions built up behind the unitary executive theory (the kind their reactionary forebearers decried during FDR & Truman administrations) with a hybrid Calhoun-ish “States’ Rights,” as long as the traditionalist Evangelical led Republican-imbued federal government prepares the policies for their conservative state legislatures to pass. An amped up surveillance state with police forces to ensure women & children not leave their home-states willy nilly, deploying of military for domestic policing, directing the DOJ to pursue political adversaries, privatizing as many agencies that their financial sponsors are willing to take over, redefining & censoring language that may offend caucasoidal christendom, banning of anything deemed “pornographic” or “degenerate,” dismantling the Constitution’s separation of powers, ending of policies aimed at protecting the environment or human health, suppression of unions & unionizing efforts, and decreasing voting & civil rights all sounds like something that absurdly vainglorious people, believing that some divine force gave them and their race dominion over the entire world, would come up with. All of that while selling it by repudiating the U.S. electoral system and pointing at Joseph McCarthy (D/R-WI) and Eastern European autocrats as inspirations, is just too damn on the nose for anyone who has studied a lick of political theory or modern history. Quite the 920-page blueprint for a real-life Handmaid’s Tale to be imposed on those seen as underlings, as if average Americans would gleefully consent to as the real exemplification of what a “republic” would look like without democracy (or maybe they would if “I’d even shoot myself and my kids in our clown shoes to own the libs” is regrettably a middle American sentiment now).
It is a bit rich that there are over 20 mentions in Project 2025 of the need for “democracy” while decrying a “rich and powerful elite.” We can assume most of it is simply blatant gaslighting, because it would be especially sad if Heritage and their cohorts were this un-selfaware when they write this kind of flim-flam into their word processors. These are literally the same men (let’s be real, it’s almost exclusively white men) who have been pushing free-market-ish theocratic policies for years, bankrolled by overzealous tycoons and who have been talking down to working Americans about enduring their decreasing wages, security, health outcomes, suffrage, and opportunities. These are the same who profited their way into the 9-figure Manhattan penthouses and 7-figure St. Tropez yachts of a celebrated capitalist-class while handing 5-figure checks over to the rich rage-farmers piecing this Project 2025 together…

“It’s this radical equality—liberty for all—not just of rights but of authority—that the rich and powerful have hated about democracy in America since 1776. They resent Americans’ audacity in insisting that we don’t need them to tell us how to live. It’s this inalienable right of self-direction—of each person’s opportunity to direct himself or herself, and his or her community, to the good— that the ruling class disdains.”

Simply bizarro-world stuff considering that a large queue of ultra-wealthy elites, who would have been likened to “robber barons” before they started astroturfing political movements through purchased-politician-provided dark money loopholes over a century ago, have lined up to gleefully assist Project 2025’s coming to fruition.
Four Christ’s Sake, there’s even a line in a section bellyaching about public-union representation for federal employees somehow being “incompatible with democracy,” because “even threats of bargaining and delay [are] considered acts against the people.” It is no surprise that anti-union groups would make such bonkers statements, but it takes some bold levels of centrifugal spin to proclaim that “labor organizing for better pay & living is bad for our beloved democracy” when you were the same who never stop blabbering about “We are a republic, not a democracy” for so many decades.
Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision

The lasting influence on American conservatism by abundantly funded organizations who trace their lineage back to America First cliques (the NEC, JBS, CCC, etc.), continued well past pointed exasperations with FDR’s policies and on into segregation and extant culture war battles to drum up a voting bloc that had existed in both parties until the final decades of the 20th century. Prominent entities with similar outlooks, membership, and financial resources, such as the pervasive State Policy Network (SPN), with its ALEC and the American Conservative Union partners, alongside other acutely bigoted beneficiaries of the dark money DonorTrust excitedly augmented the herding of conservatives specifically into the Republican Party. Thus yielding what Kevin “southern strategy” Phillips had deemed “the New Right” and carrying on full steam ahead with Christian reconstructionist Howard Philips' “organized discontent”.
“Republic, Not a Democracy sticks around as conservative-backlash apologia, e.g., the NEC's continued opposition to public education (a “Libertarian™” argument repeatedly retooled to de-fund & undermine integration and to funnel resources into religious & private schools), the SPN's Independence Institute arguing against ballot measures, the New Right grumbling over anyone outside of a beatified ruling elite of sallow males having say in laws that govern themselves and devolving into some “despotic democracy.” Sometimes the incantation is still infused with incredibly overt tones of antisemitism that seem to be recently getting less sometimes.
The surface of American society is covered with a layer of democratic paint, but from time to time one can see the old aristocratic colours breaking through. - Alexis de Tocqueville Speaking of, RNAD has also been a recurring theme of countless National Review articles. “Countless” because a quick online search of the “preeminent journal of conservative opinion” results in dozens of recent online articles concerning the republic-ness verses democrat-ness of the U.S. Given the nature of NR's heap of content-makers, safe bet that if we peaked into archived editions, we would find that it has been a recurring theme since the magazine began fawning over segregationists and aparthied-apologists in 1955. (of course we took that bet and... oh jeez was there a heckuva lot of hand-wringing over how replacing the apartheid rule under the new Republic of South Africa with the “degradation of the democratic dogma, if applied, would bring anarchy and the collapse of civilization,” equating it with the dread of the impending end of Jim Crow laws via ‘One Man, One Vote’ SCOTUS rulings.)
William Frank Buckley Junior's National Review is a newsprint specimen demonstrating the connectivity of furtively dominant coalitions having evolved from the America First milieu struggling to learn how to dress itself up as “respectable” conservatism. Buckley grew up with a proudly racist oil developer for a father of a rather antisemitic from across the Atlantic. A fantastical fable was spun up in the 1960s about Buckley single-handedly casting the Birchers and other repugnant fringe-dwellers out of mainstream conservative politics to let them dwell in the abyss of extremism and white-grievance inspired crankery. Robert Welch, who he had befriended, worked alongside, and lauded as “an amazing man ... as conservative as they come” a few years prior, was pretty much the only notable casualty of this “spring cleaning.”
Yet other figures who had cut their teeth with the America First movements to later establish and build the John Birch Society, like Revilo “Franco-fren” Oliver, Clarence “originalism is a wonderful way to rationalize segregation” Manion, and Russell “deep pockets for neo-Nazis” Maguire were intimately involved in getting Buckley’s virtuous project off the ground. They would apply their Bircher-expertise to develop the publication while JBS luminaries like Roger Miliken and the Kochs provided funding. Mirroring the failed PR strategy of their favorite segregationist-enabler, Barry Goldwater, Buckley downplayed his extreme-Right compadres to present himself as the conservative exorciser of far-fringed demagoguery, selling himself as a prototype of what George Bush II’s “compassionate conservative.” Simultaneously, many of the pallid demons in his employ kept pumping out content for white supremacist rags like MaGuire’s American Mercury (which Buckley had also previously written for) and hatched some of America's most white supremacist operations. To assist in getting NR off the ground, Buckley hired and even defended the future American Nazi Party founder George Lincoln Rockwell (who also wrote for American Mercury), going on to consistently publish & promote a swarm of ill-famed whitelash causes. ROCKWELLrepublic"IDon'tBelieveinDemocracy" Quote
National Review could never have found a more consummate publisher than William Rusher, a prominent spokesman for the late-20th century’s conservative movement. As fountainhead of the New Right, he was the magazine’s direct link to influential conservative and Republican circles. Rusher was a lifelong conservative, hitting all the archetypal fusionist notes: ecstatically organizing support for the milky-hued Rhodesian ethnostate, campaigning for Goldwater and Reagan, proposing a conservative “new majority party” to bring together Democrats and Republicans still mad about segregation and societal progress to support of a Reagan-Wallace ticket in the 1970s, recurrent Pinochet fanboy, imagined barrages of “liberal bias” in every corner of present-day America’s society, anti-communism/anti-“modern liberalism” activist railing against every cultural aspect that fell outside of white Christianity, and was intimately involved in more than a few SPN-associated Republican/fusionist think tanks.
Being published in Buckley’s magazine gave boosts into the reactionary cool kids’ club for a herd of hard-Right provocateurs like Dinesh “professional Jonanist” D’souza, Dennis “faux-college dean of urine & feces” Prager, Ann “not a big fan of the 1st Am” Coultier, and Pat “inspirer of Proud Boys” Buchanan. But a parade of even more agonizing soi-disant far-right academics, whose dribble became the fertilizer for current crops of extreme-Rightists regurgitating threadbare racist conspiracy theories and “civil rights is communism is democracy” monologues, were also gifted lifts into the Bircher-shaped spotlight via the “preeminent journal of conservative opinion.”
A quick jaunt through the recognizable contributors list finds holocaust denier Joseph Sobran, pseudo-academic racist Taki Theodoracopulos (whose magazine Gavin McInness kicked off his “Proud Boys” under alt-Right puppet Richard Spencer's editorship), racialist/eugenicists Charles “Bell Curve” Murray (American Enterprise Institute & modern eugenicist guru) and Victor Hanson (Hillsdale) and Richard “Mankind Quarterly” Lynn (publishing partner of Roger Pearson), various ferociously fascist-fanboys and über-antisemites like Ezra Pound and of course Revilo Oliver, VDARE's Peter Brimelow (whose über-racist articles shaped Trump's immigration policies via Stephen Miller) and Sam Francis (American Renaissance, Council of Conservative Citizens) and John Derbyshire (Taki's), alt-Right panjandrums Jared Taylor (AmRen and Council of Conservative Citizens) and Paul Gottfried (Mises Institute, coined “alt-Right” with Spencer while at Taki's), influential anti-immigration “expert” and VDARE promoter Mark Krikorian, fascism and dictators-fanboy Rod Dreher, League of the South founder and apartheid/Rhodesia-fan Thomas Fleming, as well the older guard who came up with “fusionism” as an academic term for what is commonly referred to as “the Libertarian™-to-Fascist pipeline”, such as Murray Rothbard (alt-Right guru who founded the Cato Institute with the Kochs and championed David Duke) and Frank “fusionism” Meyer (inspirer of groups like the Heritage Foundation).
Many of these personalities have also spent time working intimately with the Heritage Foundation. Speaking of, over the last decade or so, readers may have came across TownHall.com “articles” and wondered what this uptight American complain-a-thon was and why so many of Buckley’s goofballs show up in it. That would be “synergy.” TownHall is a “media” machine that started as a BBS online forum created in a National Review and Heritage Foundation joint venture. It quickly became the “largest conservative site on the Web,” now residing in the rapacious hands of the Salem Media Group as another appendage of the extra-conservative media empire’s expansive reach. *(Speaking of Salem produced programming partners, TPUSA's Charlie Kirk also has his own “We are a republic, not a democracy” routine. Another spectacular example of either intentionally disingenuously misdefining terms for rhetorical effect OR someone who dropped out of community college before taking a single civics course yet speaking with the confidence of a mediocre white man.)*
Point being, NR is an in-print example of applying highbrow makeup on an ideology so “traditional” that it cannot shake old financial and ideological ties to its reactionary past. Its founder rarely, if ever, shied away from justifying and supporting some of the most wrong sides of recent history and the journal he birthed continues to carry on the tradition. The rhetoric is still mask-off with barely rehashed “average citizens shouldn’t be involved in choosing their fates.” Old segregationist & Bircher reruns. Not too long ago, a Welch-echoing article written by Lisa Shiffren from TownHall.com and the Independent Women’s Forum (another SPN club) pulled the old “interracial marriage & civil rights are just the start of a Negro Soviet Union” when riffing about the 43rd U.S. President’s past:

“How had these two come together at a time when it was neither natural nor easy for such relationships to flourish? Always through politics. No, not the young Republicans. Usually the Communist Youth League. Or maybe a different arm of the CPUSA. But, for a white woman to marry a black man in 1958, or 60, there was almost inevitably a connection to explicit Communist politics. ... “Political correctness was invented precisely to prevent the mainstream liberal media from pursuing the questions which might arise about how Senator Obama’s mother, from Kansas, came to marry an African graduate student. ... “It was, of course, an explicit tactic of the Communist party to stir up discontent among American blacks, with an eye toward using them as the leading edge of the revolution.”

race mixing is communism dipshits

Americans weren't dumb. They called it out...

We are not saying that someone going out of their way to argue “We are a Republic, Not a Democracy” is a dead giveaway for segregationists or antisemitic conspiracy theorists. But it has been downright rare to hear this pseudo-axiom from anywhere but white-griping Right-wing circles.
Nevertheless, after all this exhuming of RNAD’s voyage through history, we are still left wondering if we are just perceiving these correlations from our modern vantage point?
Maybe we are simply projecting present-day biases onto the past?
So far & for the most part, the answer seems to be a pretty solid “nope.” Apparently, it is not just us. Americans in the past were not naive automatons who simply swallowed disingenuous and malignant reactionary tropes. Most saw the moldy chestnut for what it was. Seeing how some of the worst people were the ones who kept it rolling certainly cast a dark shadow on those 7-words. People noticed that its usage rose alongside increasing fascism. Fortunately those chanting RNAD were called out for what it was. Maybe we could all take some notes from our nation’s past and get back to not being so concerned about how offended authoritarian-minded jerks may get when we break it to them that the porous double-speak and fading gaslights is not actually hiding their dipshittery very well. During World War II, the FBI noted how keen wannabe-Nazi propagandists were to repeatedly insert “We are a republic, not a democracy into their messaging. Many mentions of pro-fascist operatives and activists decreeing the tagline were recorded throughout the 1940s.
Undercover reporter Arthur Derounian's 1943 book Under Cover: My Four Years in the Nazi Underworld of America details his conversations and interactions with prominent members of the America First movements and their unabating “splitting of hairs” over definitions in order to undermine democracy and promote fascism with the ol' RNAD. In 1946, Derounian followed up with The Plotters, pointing out the same usage of RNAD by nationalists reducing democracy down to a Jewish plot to turn the nation into some Communist hellhole.
Following World War II, Congressmen stressed how messed up it was that RNAD was still being utilized to disguise pro-fascist proclivities…

Antidemocracy is another of the great common denominators of the Fascist-minded, “Democracy is decadent,” Fascists everywhere declare. In the United States, the favorite theme among the pro-Fascists is that our country is a “Republic,” not a “democracy.” Democracy, the “anti’s” say, is “mobocracy,” the rule of the mob. A “Republic” is the rule of the elite, while democracy, according to their definition, is a synonym for communism

As well, discussions were had in Congress concerning propagandists like Upton Close & Merwin Hart’s use of RNAD to only faintly shroud their fascist ideals. Prolific researcher and political scientist Claudius Johnson addressed the room-dwelling elephant in his 1947 book Government in the United States:

“Those who insist that the United States is just and only a republic never tell us exactly what they have in mind.”

Johnson explains that the “modern democracy” they claimed to oppose were the initiatives and referendums, antitrust & anti-lobbying laws, popular elections for offices, and any regulations, pensions, welfare, or societal progressive laws created by freely elected officials. His astute observations had been already proven in the words & actions of anti-New Deal America Firsters before the book’s publication. The Birchers and their ilk, who came trailing after, then went gone out of their way to prove Johnson wholly correct.
In the 1950s, the persistent use of RNAD by segregationists to attack public education (this should sound quite familiar) was easily identified:

“Certain very reactionary extremist groups in this country are waging an all-out propaganda war. . . against what they term welfare statism, collectivism, socialism and Marxism... “In their desire to preserve their version of the American way of life they include educators in their list of “left-wing” organizations. Their list includes groups and individuals who are fighting for democratic principles—fair treatment to minorities, better understanding between religious and racial groups, advancement of civil rights and civil liberties. The word 'democracy' seems to be offensive to them. They declare that this country is a republic, not a democracy.”

Especially with the Birchers and their membership of apartheid-apologists & neo-fascists revamping RNAD into a theme-song, those who noticed did not hesitate to quickly make fun of the chicanery… "Cold, Logical Water On a Ridiculous Hot Argument" - A stupid little argument is making the rounds these days— whether this nation is a republic or a democracy.“This country is a republic, not a democracy,” the slogan goes. "Let’s keep it that way.” In the first place, the two cannot be properly contrasted. It would be like companing a machine to the man who operates it. The truth is that we are both. We are a republic because the Constitutional Convention adopted this form of government in 1787. We are a democracy because the people —not an emperor, a dictator or a tiny power clique—run it. To those who started this silly argument, we’d like to ask it they would prefer to live in Canada -a constitutional monarchy and a democracy—or Red China—a republic and the most repressive dictatorship the world has ever known.

With battles for civil rights and integration tumbling into the 1960s, purveyors of backlash willingly brought the spotlight upon themselves and their calls for curtailing the American experiment. In the saner media, op-eds drew attention to the far-Right’s continued use of their myopic anti-democratic precept. Small town newspapers covered the JBS’s baffoonish attempts to expand their Libertarian™-segregationist rabble by passing themselves off as local “Study Groups.”
Articles hit the same points Jefferson nailed 150 years earlier when he noted that, except a handful of eccentric diehards persistently cobbling together poorly constructed straw-men, literally nobody was even talking about direct democracy…

Every time, it came from some extreme right-wing individual or organization, which used the slogan to cover its reactionary purposes. “ Always these purposes were to turn back the clock and wipe out social and economic gains the common people, by democratic methods, have made through their government and their labor unions. That's why right-wingers spread propaganda saying the forefathers who wrote the Constitution never intended to set up a democracy. ... “'The government of a republic is known as an aristocracy or oligarchy if power is held by a small group ... or a dictatorship if power resides in a single person. When, however, control rest with a majority of the people who have the opportunity to express their will freely in their choice of public officials, the government is a democracy.' “What the Birchers and their kind seem to have in mind when they shout 'republic, not democracy,' is to take power from the people and put it in the hands of an elite. We don't believe the American people will fall for that kind of a scheme.”

Constitutional Democracies

Yet another recent addition to the roster of anti-democratic presses from expected corners is the new fangled “Convention of States” scheme to ecstatically rewrite the U.S. Constitution. Sadly, we are not talking a few more tweaks for some distinct conservative advantages. This is the unabashed collaboration of white Christian-conservative activists and politicians with well-resourced Rightist organizations cultivated alongside the SNP-affiliated Tea Party movement for the first time in history calling for a constitutional convention under Article V in order to overhaul the Constitution. The plan is an extremer spin on Calhoun's doctrine of nullification promoted by many of the groups this write up has grown to love. Like impetuous clockwork, the Heritage Foundation mechanistically label this plan a “grassroots effort,” despite it being another cash-rich project endowed by Mercer and Koch balance sheet entries over at the American Legislative Exchange Council. As if the Heritage Foundation and Turning Point USA’s “Project 2025” were not a gross enough proposal completely remaking America into a theocratic autocracy, this Convention of State’s plan would directly write out American democracy to replace it with a version of “Republic In Name Only” that would not bode well for any one but maybe a privileged few Rightist swamp-toddlers in Washington DC.
Which could be why even the John Birch Society (who is still very much around) is like, “whoa, that's too over-the-top for even our brand of screwballery”. Granted, Birchers dig these nouveau-conventioneers’ “government should be so small it could drown in a bathtub” shtick, but they would rather utilize Article VI to shrink government instead of blatantly imploding the Constitution to refashion it in such an overtly monocratic manner. Although it has caused quite the fun rift in conservative “constitutionalist” circles, all the (literal) big money is on bringing court cases and getting the remaining states (19 have passed legislation and 9 have bills in legislation) to sign on and reach the required 34-state goal to enact a new constitutional convention with an extremely white and conservative theme.
Because they have mostly been relegated to more shawdowery corners, this has probably been the JBS’s most news coverage in decades. But the influence of groups like them and their progeny keeps coming. One could argue that it has become more ubiquitous, because the groups they inspired are seeing the fruits of their slow methodical decades-long labor finally coming to fruition…
Which again, bodes horrible for almost every last one of us.

The proper way to make policy decisions under our Constitution in America is for the people to do so through the democratic process. -Ted Cruz

But if we really want to talk about constitutionalism (this is as good a place as any to drop this blurb), without democratically choosing representatives or voting on ballots, the supposed sacrosanct “We the People” would just be three diminutive words written in large font on a sheet of paper under Philadelphian glass to make our little patriotic hearts forget about the whopping amount of Americans that have been historically disenfranchised in the past.
However, the words of the U.S. Constitution guarantees comparatively fewer rights than much of the rest of the world’s constitutions and has less than half (26 of 60) of the provisions that the world’s average bill of rights contains. Which may explain why designers of other constitutions since 1787 have used America’s as an example to be less emulated, but rather more as lesson in what not to write in order to avoid the flaws and mistakes in their own constitutionalism. (especially given that the U.S.'s was written in a time of horse, buggies, and extreme racism & inequality) Chickens from eggs laid 235 years ago appear to be coming home to roost in a coop of electoral results denial, institutionalization of minocracy, and the derailing of virtuous checks and balances.
But none of that means America has not been learning, trying, and using its amendment process to expand suffrage and democracy to its people. The 9th and 10th Amendments both discuss the rights and powers of those humans which the first 7 words of the Preamble directly refers to. Furthermore, the 14th, 15th, 17th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments address voting rights, allowing us to democratically elect our representatives. And as mentioned earlier, several of the Constitution’s co-creators, as well as a most progressive and conservative presidents, have been on record describing the U.S. of A as a “democracy” and/or “representative democracy.” It seems to make much more sense to go with authentic historical voices, as opposed to the “We Are A Just a Republic” rabble with a fashy pedigree.
Maybe this is why a Constitution-demolishing “Convention of States” looks more like the result of underfunded school systems or maybe rampant homeschooling by historical-revisionists adults who grew up to be mad that they were unable to inherit a country as racially homogeneous and evangelically supremacist as the one their mediocre ancestors enjoyed.
"The electoral college is a disaster for Democracy" - donald trump tweet, 6NOV2012

To be fair, the U.S. is not doing the democracy thing well

We should acknowledge that “we are not a democracy” is not an entirely incorrect observation. The U.S. cannot seem to solidly codify voting rights for its citizens. Gerrymandering is still a pervasive problem. A non-partisan electoral agency to maintain fair, safe, and legit elections is not even being considered for the American system. Nor is there much gumption to replace an antiquated independent-party-crushing First Past the Post and a slavery-era amendment-generated Electoral College with something considerably more democratic, like Ranked Choice/Instant Runoff or Proportional Representation. Lower & middle classes, women, minority & people of color, LGBTQ, handicapped, struggling farmers & independent gig-workers, and other substantial swathes of Americans remain underrepresented in outmoded corridors of power of local, state, and federal governments.
Conversely, the parliamentary halls, executive offices, and judicial benches continue to be crammed with an excess of electable but inept frantic-bible/flag-wavers that money can get past that post first. But that is beyond this article’s scope, so we will leave that for others to address who are much better at it than we ever could be.
Rights are either God-given or evolve out of the democratic process. Most rights are based on the ability of people to agree on a social contract, the ability to make and keep agreements. - Rush Limbaugh As we have now seen, “We’re a Republic, Not a Democracy” is a well-worn disingenuous axiom that will likely not see retirement any time soon. Right-y free-market elitists and segregationist chuds opposing equal representation have fallen back on it without cluing us in on what they actually mean by this “republic.” Current Louisiana congressman & SPN mascot Mike Johnson’s “we don’t live in a democracy” but a “biblical” republic comes to mind. Heck, conservatives have been complaining about people voting on existential issues since before Kansas chose not to become a slave state. So besides the optics of “a republic if we can keep it” having been tainted by a parade of pale prejudiced dweebs, what even do they mean by “republic?”
Sometimes the response is an equivocal “a constitutional republic,” which clears up almost nothing. A constitution is not what makes a republic. But at this point, almost every republic is constitutional (and most of those are considered democracies). Switzerland, often touted as the closest case of quasi-direct democracy, is also a constitutional republic. Anecdotally, if we do not get too wrapped up in the figurehead part, nations like the U.K. and Canada are informally labelled a “crowned republic” or “monarchical republic” because, as John Adams pointed out, they operate essentially like any other republic. Furthermore, since they very much are formalized under constitutions, they would also be considered a “constitutional republic.”
As well, China, Russia, Cuba, and the former USSR are all “constitutional republics.” But there are some crucial democratic components missing, which sets them apart from other republics like the United States. Considering the genre of Americans discussed so far, adamant about the U.S. not being a democracy, we are starting to think that these kinds of one-party oligarchies may be the muses for the style of polity that the anti-democratic/pro-republic reactionaries are striving for.
On the other hand, annoyingly pedantic RNAD-obsessed Right-wingers seem to quite enjoy prattling on about what they think “democracy” is and all the problems they can come up with to pin on it. Apparently it can only be defined as synonymous with unadulterated pedal-to-the-floor pure uncut “direct democracy.” Quite the straw-man to construct when pretty much no one is or was proposing any such notion. Continuing to equate it to socialism and communism is even more bonkers on so many levels when rarely are these economic systems even on anyone’s radar when discussing the ideals of the nearly universally revered “democracy.” Seems we should do some investigating into how much the underfunded American education system has cut its Civics and History courses.
Maybe in a less brain-wormed world, Americans could come to use the objectively accurate and more concise “We aren’t a Direct Democracy, We are a Democratic Republic” to aid in the prevention of superfluous ambiguity.
Speaking of clarity, Charles Beard, the history professor who returned crackpot attentions to RNAD with his 1913 book, subsequently discussed similar concepts and definitions thirty years later in his aptly named The Republic: Conversations on Fundamentals. In fictitious conversations with others he discusses the history of the word “democracy” being bastardized by English aristocrats to signify any “government by the rabble” and its later use in the American colonies by Whigs and rich landowners to smear laborers, agrarians, and slaves who they feared would stop working and seize their properties. Eventually, average Americans adopted the name “democrat” for themselves and their Democratic-Republican Party until eventually settling on “Democratic Party,” which the Republican Party subsequently emerged from.
Beard explains that although there is no mention of the term “democracy” in the Constitution, there is also no law or mention of the U.S. being a “republic” either. Yes, according to a single line in Article IV, each state is guaranteed protection and a “republican form of government,” but nowhere is the federal government branded a “republic.”
Plenty of republicanism is written into the federal constitution. There are also large hauls of democracy packed in there as well. Since the 1790s, it has been amended to include increasingly more democratic principles which give us many of the freedoms and rights that we take for granted today.
Beard’s book is a decent read on this subject, as well a peek into how 1940s Americans thought about these terms. He wrote a decent summary of how democracy is characterized nowadays...
1. People, not a legalized monarch or class, are the source of all political power. “The voters directly choose the principal agents of government and, through their agents, indirectly, all other persons who have political power over life and property.” 2. “Through agents chosen by the voters, all laws are made.” 3. The chief agents of government must retire at fixed intervals or submit themselves to another vote if they seek continuance in power. 4. “All voters are equal; without regard to intellectual, moral, or economic qualifications, has one vote and no more; and in elections, as a rule, the candidate who receives the highest number of votes, whether a majority or a plurality, is placed in office.”
Proceeding further with some of the concepts we have came across while researching for this article, democracy, “rule by the people,” has become a bit of a catch-all. Modern features of typical democracy frequently includes competitive elections, freedom of expression, and protection of individual civil liberties & human rights.
Moreover, most republics are inherently democratic. As anyone who has taken an AmGov class knows, democracy is an essential element of most modern republican systems. Proper democracies require discussion and compromise to flourish — something that can also be applied to damn near any organization, even a household or the inner workings of companies — as well as a defined system of government relying on representation. When world leaders speak of “democracy,” these are the kinds of ideals that they refer to.
When U.S. military and politicians talk about “spreading democracy,” for better or worse, this is what the PR campaigns are selling.
We never hear of “spreading republicanism.” Partly because it sounds rather goofy when said out loud. And again, most sane humans who have ever lived long enough to ponder governance have viewed the two terms as rather synonymous. We say “exercising our democratic rights.” But no one says “exercising my republican rights.” On the flip-side, calling the U.S. “the Republic” sounds appropriate, but calling America “the Democracy” sounds weird. If the Pledge of Allegiance contained “and to the Democracy for which it stands,” it would be clunky as heck. (“but it’s in the flag pledge” is a favorite argument for RNAD. Also a bit ironic given the author of the oath was a socialist, an adherent of an economic system maligned as derived from cursed “democrats.”) It fundamentally comes down to how language is used. The modern definitions are so damn close that arguing in the First World about “republic” being confusingly antithetical to “democracy” is facepalmingly inane at best.

tweets from "hockeymom" about how russian disinformation and illegals were destroying "our democracy," but we are a republic, not a democracy and democracy = communism

Even more hilarious is the amount of think tanks, Religious-Right activist groups, Libertarian™ syndicates, and various online nut jobs with long histories of RNAD-inspired promotional literature and unhinged social media posts, also having plenty to say about the awesomeness of American democracy, what an essential gift it was that the Founders bestowed democracy upon us, how protecting & engaging with democracy is integral to our modern society, how democracy (even the direct kind) is an indispensable element of modern republics, and with all their innate downfalls, republics may actually be a bit overrated. The cherry on top is seeing this kind of discourse in print or on websites only a few pages/posts away from another contributor ranting about how the U.S. is in no way whatsoever a democratic democracy.

On a similar note, how is it that Libertarians are some of the loudest about the country being a republic when their whole thing is “no one else is above me except whatever money and market forces may come?” Or is it all just a put on and they have given up denying that their aforementioned pipeline to fash-land exists? We have yet to come across any believable rationalization, but it is rather fun that it only took National Review’s Bill Rusher, principal originator of modern conservatism and architect of the interconnectivity between laissez-faire capitalist and traditionalists, one sentence to succinctly explain democracy as a “free-marketplace of ideas” in terms one would think they could understand. It is better than anything we could come up with: For those who enjoyed having their political theory served up on a platter of free-market rhetoric, it was sometimes explained that democracy was really just a "market-place of ideas," in which competing principles and proposals vied for the approval of the "buyer" (= voter)..
Despite the “let the market decide” mantras, free-marketeers do really seem to prefer and rely on governments to prop up their markets and businesses and even their political ideologies. Is “Faux-Laissez-Faire” a word? Because “libertarian,” given that the anti-authoritarian political philosophy the word denoted until Rothbard celebrated ripping it off in the ’70s, really does not seem to fit those guys. And representative democracy is not necessarily immune, but republicanism has historically had an oligarchical bent.

Besides all that silliness, no reasonable definition of democracy would exclude the United States of America. Elsewhere across the globe, where 95% of the (non-American) humans live, at least 159 nations use “Republic” in their official names. If one is really fixated on an American Exceptionalism fetish, then dying on an “We Are Only a Republic” hill is an embarrassingly silly way to do one’s performative red-white-bluery.

"Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man." —Ronald Reagan

“Republic” is a Word, Not a Hill to Die On

s lengthy as it is, this 4-part article has been nothing more than a speedy recounting of “We Are a Republic, Not a Democracy” through the annals of American history. We leave it to the oodles of others with actual academic clout to explain the perplexities of political theories, distinct differences in speech or thought between now and bygone days, semanticist concepts & confusions, and what actually entails a nation being “Not A Democracy” in our modern era. (a heap of links have been provided below for the reader's perusal)
But please allow us to end with a few brief impressions born from months of researching the history behind RNAD
For the pedants still hung up on interpretations of the colonial era’s interpretations and usage of ancient civilizations’ interpretations of what words may mean, maybe take a few moments to consider the type of self-defining fascists and segregationists who made “We are But a Republic” their mantra. While you are it, maybe update your vocabulary to 2024 terminology. That or get used to the eye-rolls and being waved off as yet another in a long line of unserious dorks. Super cool life choices.
For the rest of us, although the “immigrants/minorites/woke/globalist-socialist-corporate-bankers are coming for our fragile white kids to turn them into a mobocracy of transgender communists” sounds like played-out baloney to the general population, reactionary rage-farming can still raise a bountiful crop of votes and financial support from those who have internalized a zero-sum game of anything approaching equality for others feels like oppression to those already possessing privilege. There are multiple levels of unfortunate irony built into such a self-knee-capping strategy for politicians.
For one, moral panicking does nothing to help a society move forward into the future. Nor does it make things better for anyone, especially the Americans who have gobbled up manufactroversies constructed by well-off online/cable/radio rage-vendors. These people persistently search for an enemy, usually a foe conjured up who was not on their radar just a few moons earlier, who has zero affect on Americans’ day-to-day life whatsoever. Making “democracy” the nemesis, for fear of the “wrong people” being granted a choice in how their lives are governed, is equally as wackadoodles. Adding to this, broadsides against “others” having choices somehow making conservative white men “victims” illuminates the projection of the kinds of choices these “martyrs” would themselves make in order to “own the libs/left/immigrants.” Such revealing rhetoric is well into the realm of Accusation in the Mirror and even more disingenuous than proclaiming that “democracy” cryptically means “a pure democracy that is actually just communism.”
Secondly, what the heck is up with portraying principles like democracy and equality as products of some mysterious elitist cabal taking over the land for Communism/Beelzebub/Sharia/Depopulation/Rainbow Flags? Very bizarre because it is insane to believe that citizens having the same opportunities to live and have a say in how they are to be governed is somehow a more tyrannical predicament than a nation ruled by a handful homogeneous politicians handpicked by a small band of like-minded men who already hold outsized amount of wealth and power. Which is literally the definition of “elitist” (belief that some things should be controlled or owned only by the richest or best educated people). Politically speaking, “plutocracy” or “oligarchy” would be relevant terms and be perfectly compatible with a “republic.” And like wealthy secessionists and segregationists of the past, those cranking the “republic, but not a democracy” crusade up the loudest have chiefly been well-to-do oil, auto, and publishing magnates who have been very candid about how they, “the captains of industry,” should be the given all the strings to manipulate government with, rather than just a bulk of the strings already purchased long ago.
There is some irony in making use of democratic processes to obtain enough power to curtail democracy. At least for the time being, they still technically need consistent electoral wins in order to keep creating their variants of legislation, place allied magistrates on court benches, and fill normally nonpolitical governmental positions with political appointments. Is this the “republic” they want? As we have pointed out that for centuries, those with privilege and power have been upfront about their fear of democracy. They are probably not wrong that there would be less billionaires if we were more democratic. But we would also be more likely to have a more equitable society as we see in other nations that tend to be better at doing democracy. In spite of a “mobocracy” that never arrives in these democratic lands, the sturm und drang in a society of diminishing citizens’ rights, liberties, and safety under a strict republic sure sounds like a dismally despotic fate for everyone but the few elitists sitting atop the heap. Little surprise that we found most of this “We are a Republic, Not a Democracy” in promotional material of fascists and segregationists declaring that a republic was the only veritable bulwark against a “tyranny of the majority,” circulated at the exact same time Jim Crow was busy curtailing the citizenship rights of minorities.

They may view and demonize democracy as a threat to their standing and privilege, but they still need democracy’s assistance to reach their minocratic objectives. Because for now, this is how the sacrosanct U.S. Constitution and the nation’s political norms currently work…. …until they no longer do and this “Republic” becomes Jefferson’s 173 elitist despots of lily-white Christian Reconstructionism. Or perhaps something markedly worse.


for the visual learners...

We spent entirely too much time putting together a visualization to display the interconnectedness of the “We are just a Republic” promulgating creatures and their buddies discussed here.

Made with Flourish

We realize that some readers may get hairs up over a few associations. Most of these characters are legendary for their ceaseless Red-baiting, Jew-baiting, and Woke-baiting. Many built their “organized discontent” brands and well-funded partisan organs focused on the othering of their fellow Americans. So as far as we are concerned, they lopped off any of those “nuh-uh” legs they could have possibly stood on quite some time ago. Besides, if there was enough corroboration for a link, we made it. And although crazy long, this 4-part article is much too short to cover every detail.
Honestly, making this chart was more a labor of love, so we will surely be building on our beanplating in future articles elaborating on these kinds of shady connections.
(if you are having trouble seeing the interactive network-graph, try THIS)



Okay, one last thing, we promise...
Humongous thanks to Ernie Lazar over at the Internet Archive. We don't know who Ernie is, but damn was his FOIA Collection an amazing archive of connections and answers. We dug through all sorts of online resources, but at least 75% of the relatively authentic source material was already on the Internet Archive and its Wayback Machine. If you are able, please toss them a donation to keep freely accessible records up and running the way the world wide web was intended to be. That would also give a big middle finger to many of the dingleberries we have been talking about.
Oh, and this whole thing was originally published over on Medium as well.

#Democracy #weAreARepublicNotADemocracy #Republic #AmericanHistory #altRight #Libertarian #HeritageFoundation

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Documenting another online flaming bag-of-poop singeing real life.

(a slightly slicker & updated version has been posted on Medium)


Last weekend a scuffle broke out between two far-right groups protesting a Portland suburb's first ever Pride Night.
It appeared that a well known “shirt” group, the Proud Boys, got into it with a lesser known local hate group wearing gaiters calling themselves the “Rose City Nationalist Club”.
In the melee, two of the RCNC gaggle had their masks removed. As it is nowadays, others nearby had their cell-phone camera apps up & running. Within a few post-fracas breaths, more than a few versions of footage of the slap-fight were quickly uploaded to social media.
As a testament to how the Tesla CEO's recent purchase is quickly becoming the new chan site, one video briefly showed two maskless neo-fascist pugilists' faces, was uploaded and swiftly spread around by accounts by twitter accounts big, small, and mostly with little \$8 blue-checks in them.

OMG

It seems the video had been first shared by the now-suspended @OMGLikeReally account. It took little time for more heavily-followed rather-right-leaning twitter accounts to alley-oop the short flick into their like-minded fans' feeds. As it goes on the Busted Bird app with viral tweets from these kinds of accounts, the site's owner commented:

Who were the unmasked individuals?

And so by the troll law of online-nature, the video was boosted like a phallic rocket ship powered by millions of views and the replies swelled with conjecture of “paid crisis actors”, “antifa”, or worse.
As we saw on January 6th and in Allen, Texas and in Buffalo, NY and so many other times when far-right individuals (who share and even act on the shared rhetoric of a slightly less far-right) get caught doing something horrible or embarrassing, they are quickly thrown under the proverbial bus. Exciting podcasters and “citizen journalists” to sprint to their mics and social media to share their excessive outrage. Labeling the miscreants a “false-flag”, “ANTIFA”, “BLM”, or “Trans” and squeezing synthetic indignation out of how preposterous it is to think that conservatives like themselves would ever do something like that. And pedal-to-the-metal it until that rage-fueled bus is running on “Empty”.
From small-time MAGA grifters like FemalesForTrump and AMERiKANgriLLL and RickTheTank to bigger names like Glenn “I haven't found an authoritarian I didn't like” Greenwald and Tim “I'll never wash this beanie” Pool, they bused it out to the masses.
But instead of reckoning with the fact that these are the kind of groups that show up to protest a LGBTQ event, something neo-nazi-attracting moral-panic-pumping accounts like LibsOfTikTac, GaysAgainstGroomers (who organized the protest), and a myriad of culture warrior accounts would advocate for, organize, and actively cheer on, the accounts shared their anger about having seen a “fed” (or in some cases an “antifa”) false flag and the pixelated faces of two unmasked men undeniably proved it.
Under a tweet from Benny Johnson (1.6M followers) sharing the video and “viewed” 32 million times, a blue-checker account kicked it off with a “Here's two who were unmasked. Do your thing, sleuths.”

(BENNY JOHNSON and Tiffany_TX's sleuths tweets)

The twitter fanboys were giddy because they believed that they had finally found two real-live “feds” in the wild.
Or in rare cases, excited that there was finally proof that the Proud Boys weren't connected directly with neo-nazis (spoiler: they are) because it sort of looked like they were sort of kicking some nazis' butts.
So they got to sleuthing. Sort of.


The masked Proud/PF/RCNC Boy

Some infinitely more familiar with the local fash-scene easily identified one of the masked men as RCNC's founder/leader Casey Knuteson, a former Proud Boy of the same group who had left for the Whiter-Powerier pastures of Patriot Front. (Patriot Front is believed to be “feds” by these same context-adverse twitterers).
Several had been exposing “Canute the Great's” travels and his most recent spin-off group, the “Rose City Nationalist Club” for while.
While online “sleuths” thought they had a case, unsurprising to most everyone else, Knuteson was plainly one of them and the brouhaha was simply internal beef over who was more fash-y and less cuck-y. As the local PBs explained on their “memes by angry white guys” telegram channel: PB1 PB2 The Patriot Front leaks published by Unicorn Riot published show Casey had been a kind of go-between the local PBs and PF.
And as it has so often been with the Traditional Values “We're Fighting To Keep Kids Safe” crowd, Knuteson was also apparently found guilty of physically abusing his own child and 9 years later still doesn't have custody. (again, we must note that in those 9 years, he's been a member of Proud Boys and two White Nationalist groups; a common thread that maybe we should get into in future writings.)
There is heaps more context we could get into, but that's enough for this shit-show and surely others can do a better job breaking it down than us. We are not journalists. Nor do we live in #Portland. We just do OSINT-related stuff to expose & debunk bad things that people being bad do to people that don't deserve it. That's why we are here: to help Benjamin out.


The second masked boy in a fuzzy screenshot

Although local activists recognize him from other RCNC actions, as of today (30th of June, 2023) the skinnier second unmasked man from the video has yet to be identified by anyone the author has heard from.
Or at least he hasn't been identified in the reality that we reside in.
Some top-notch keyboard “sleuth” had stumbled on a twitter profile that maybe possibly perhaps looked like it could fit the supposed “fed” stereotype in the story that the riled up crowd had spun.
Their man had been found and no further investigating or confirmation was necessary. They announced the search done and the reply-guys retweeted it up and down the app with two taps on their tiny screens.
All sorts of similarly much-followed $8/month-clout accounts, like russia-buddy inside-trader Tyler Durden Daniel_Ivandjiiski @zerohedge (1.6M) to smaller ones like Alex Sheppard (72K) and even smaller fake doctor rage-farmers who have to rely on AI to make their pfp and their friends look decent, “Dr. Frensor” (13.5K), jumped in to spread it faster than a Tesla-battery fire.
zerohedge And #Elon
They had settled on the offender being a young Jewish man named Benjamin Brody, who had just graduated days earlier from UC Riverside and was trying to enjoy the beginning of his summer with friends and family.
From the outside, it is utterly confusing as to why one would assume Benjamin would be a wily FBI agent so far from home.
Apparently if someone viewing the grainy images on their phone or an outdated monitor squinted juuusssttt right, he slightly looked like the skinny kid in the pixelated video screenshot. And an older Instagram post from his fraternity mentioned his desire to work for the government and was on his way to a “polysci” degree. And as everyone knows, if you want to work for any governmental agency, you must first do untrained undercover work for the federal bureau of investigations. Totally.
Last Sunday (6/25) Benjamin Brody woke up to harassment from terminally online weirdos who think that the FBI, antifa, trans-people, immigrants, Jews, reptilians, and/or some combination of all or none of the above are behind everything that makes their crazy-ilk look as crazy as they do.
Egged on by accounts with millions of followers & an edge-lord billionaire who is open about his fondness for tin-foil hat-shaped logic.
The trolls from twitter tried their darnedest to reenact the odious doxxing and skewering we've been accustomed to seeing oozing out of 4chan, 8kun, and kiwifarms. Noteworthy stochastic menaces came from even less fun corners of the social platform, from #Musk-fluffer Matt Wallace (1.1M followers) to Ian “confused about Orwell” Malcolm 1984 (4K) to QAnon-conspiracist ReturnOfKappy (87K). And naturally, the multitudes of lower-ranked angry-mob comments and replies were outlandishly gross as well.
With haste, they smeared the news around the social medias and began harassing him & his family through his social media accounts. The author is unaware what Benjamin dealt with in person, but it was evident what was happening online.
Much of it packed a noticeable antisemitic edge to it. Some notable mentions are tweets and replies from JD Sharp (36.8K) and @Chaos_Memer giving a wink & a nod to the worn out “the Jews are behind everything” tropes that have been given renewed juice from the recent rise of the alt-Right and QAnon movements.

JD Sharp

CHAOS MEMEER

The “we found the fed” panic spilled into other expected edgy realms. On GETTR, #ProudBoy founder Gavin “choke a tranny” McInnes shared screenshots with the familiarly regurgitated childish commentary...

gavin

And the image boards of 4chan, where this stuff normally starts out, shouldn't be left out...

4chan douche

The author has not spoken with Mr. Brody, but it's pretty safe to assume that the young man is occupied living his post-graduation life. His rather compact online footprint makes it glaringly obvious that he is an average middle class kid who posts selfies and group photos with buddies and is too busy to do much interaction with much else online.
To the chronically-online, that in and of itself may be “suspect”. But for those of us who aren't stuck in their phones, grinding our teeth anxiously awaiting our next dopamine hit from online interactions, this is actually quite common, if not the norm.
While those wackos aren't likely to be convinced by anything that sounds like logic, the rest of us should consider Benjamin's case and how these insane conspiracy theories being throw at him fall apart...


Olympic leaps in logic failing to even qualify

In a sane world, Benjamin Brody is entirely none of our business. His mostly anonymous life has suddenly been subjected to scrutiny by the modern equivalent of a lynch mob propagated by millionaires, billionaires, and well-off grifters who get clout and make loot from the amount of rage that they can build up in their enthralled fandom. This is a young man who has been thrust into a clown-shaped storm of ire overnight while literally having absolutely nothing to do with an event 1,000 miles from where he resides. The iota of specious “evidence” they've scraped together takes incredibly insane stretches to connect at best. Yet amazingly there is an ugly mass of internet gremlins who are obsessed with them being true. Let's quickly run through them and examine how they hold up.
According to wackos like Matt Wallace's reply-guys, Benjamin is a “federal agent.” Demonstrating an extreme taffy-like logic, they point to his social media accounts that he and his fraternity limited or shut down soon after the deluge of harassment. Especially where it mentions that he was planning to get a Political Science degree and hoped to “work for the government.”

matt wallace

It is a leap in logic that a PoliSci degree means that one is destined to immediately work in law enforcement or federal investigations or, in this case, even do undercover work 48 hours after graduating from a school on the other side of the country from where the FBI trains new recruits.
The conspicuous problem with this is that Benjamin earned himself a Bachelor of Science in Anthropology. There are around 23.7 million Americans working for federal, state, and local governments. And “the federal government is arguably the largest employer of anthropologists outside of academia.” Governments use anthropologists to plan, research, and manage projects.
No offense Ben, but it's mostly pencil-pusher stuff. Anthropology is just not “undercover in extremist hate groups to make them look bad” exciting stuff. And as stated above there are millions upon millions of “government jobs” from social service to meteorologist to political aide to dog-catcher. So it's one super weak Charlie Kelly-esque stringed out connection to make.
Benjamin received his degree on the evening of Wednesday at a graduation ceremony at UC Riverside. Degrees take stress and time to get through. Fitting in training with the FBI would take a huge chunk of time away from said education. Part-time jobs while in school is enough. FBI training would take a clone.
Despite what very smooth-brained nutters may think, one cannot simply be an on-the-ground FBI agent 2 days after graduating either. It takes at least 20 weeks of intensive training in Quantico, VA before moving on to other specific areas of expertise. 21 Jump Street was a fictitious TV show. This is not how real life works.
Even more outlandish, the unmasked goof has been a regular at RCNC hootenannies for a while.
So that would mean a heck of a lot of trips from Southern California to a boring corner of Oregon just to build up an undercover presence to make some white power group (that few had heard of until less than a week ago) look bad.
And he would have had to have driven or hopped on a plane within 48 hours after graduating just to get in the middle of a scuffle between two far-right groups so if someone filmed it, he could mess with their optics in a small PNW suburban town. Huh?!?
If the feds knew someone would be shooting for internet content, then in brain-worm world there is a damn good chance that whoever filmed the OMGLikeReally video is also a “fed”!!! No wonder that Pokemon-pfp-ed account got suspended!
The more we ponder it the more insane the Olympic-level stretching gets. But that is standard conspiracy theory thinkin' for ya.
Speaking of magnificent feats in logic & obsession:
Internet-famous Amiri “have I told you how I used to be in prison” King used one of the blue-check features he paid good money for to babble (as bad as this article does) on about Mr. Brody, regurgitating the same brain-worms Gavin did on GETTR:

“So its making the rounds on social media that one of the de-masked Patriot Front members is allegedly a Ben Brody, who is a member of a Jewish fraternity.
“If someone accused me of being somewhere I wasn’t, I would immediately take to social media (or hold a presser) to provide evidence that I was NOT.
“With ease.
“It’s 2023. There are fucking cameras everywhere.”

But, without seeing any of these internet philosophers' certifications, Mr. Brody had already done just that with a video on his Instagram account explaining that he didn't know or care to know about what had been going on in wacky online spaces because it sounded absolutely preposterous at best. He just requested that he and his family be left alone.

BensVid

Soon after he followed up with screenshots of “receipts” from the day around Riverside, CA. Someone else even posted footage from one of those “fucking cameras everywhere” of him picking up food at a restaurant in Riverside.

BenRecpt

Yet none of that mattered to the chan-infected #twitter accounts. Conspiracy theories are hard to shake and people would much rather double-down than admit they are easily convinced by even the most spurious claims.
Once he offers enough evidence to prove it's not him, he'll be left alone. -@based_biased
And Benjamin being Jewish added to the obsession.
The (((echoed))) responses left in comments of his Instagram posts, the focus on his Jewish background relating to “false flags” by well-followed accounts and their reply guys hits that point home.

antisemitism

moreantisemitism

Regardless, the clincher is that Benjamin looks only vaguely like the dweeb who lost his mask in the Portland suburb. He was living life 1,000 miles away when the Oregon City slap-fight went down. If he really could have teleported up there, he must've gained a few pounds on the way back along with some extra facial hair. His nose, eyes, and eyebrows seemed to have changed shape as well.
Also, he would've healed up that head wound he received in the filmed tussle inhumanly fast.
If he is a fed, then Holy Moly do they have everyone beat with how well they can now bend time & space and transform human bodies overnight.
(several twitter accounts claimed that Benjamin's shorter hair was part of the coverup. Sure, but if we were trying to hide, we'd probably give ourselves at least a hair dye, a different style, or shave all of it off. Not just a light trim that changes little of our overall appearance. But that's just us being not idiots)
A related but sort of sad issue is that, in reality, almost all of us look like a lot of other people. No kidding. Each one of us are likely to have a doppelganger somewhere out there. Considering the grainy quality of the video screenshot going around, there's bound to be plenty more young men out there that sort of look like that doofus.
For instance, here's an Instagram post from a Fenerbahçe football club fan account with an almost identical dude...

instagram guy

(it's from several years ago, so probably not him)
Or there's the ex-singer from Canadian band “Hedley”...

Hedley singer

(except he's currently in prison for sexual assault)
Speaking of singers and grifters, how about MAGA up-and-comer Joey Mannarino?
He nailed the look of “Unmasked Boy #2” while singing “Desire” for a Philly community cable show that never took off. According to the caption, “This young man has big things in his future.” Fitting because he's on our shortlist of grifters to showcase in the near future...

JOEY

We should also consider “Green Libertarian” Ron Paul fanboy, Steve Bannon War Room guest, and opinion writer for the Moonie's Washington Times Kyle Olbert who also had a wonderfully tin-foil-covered reply to @Chaos_Memer's “crisis actor” tweet with:

“Mark Zuckerberg and Wolf Blitzer are alumni of the PatriotFront-linked AEPI. Andrew Borans, CEO of the Alpha Epsilon Pi Foundation, served as an advisor to Turning Point USA, which helped organize the January 6th Rally in front of the White House. Counterintelligence asset?”

“PatriotFront-linked AEPI”??? And the only one that liked his tweet was Olbert himself. There is too much ignorance to unpack there, but even worse, this genius also looks like the second unmasked jerk in Patriot Front “RCNC-linked AEPI” crew...

KYLE OBERT

Apologies to Ben for pointing out how many not-good people he might look a little bit like, but this just means there are likely a whole bunch of you out there that look like Benjamin Brody in lo-def photos taken of you as well.


Trendy tin-foil hats

Benjamin Brody is not just the victim of mistaken identity, but also of an unhinged world built by opportunistic grifters using social media to build their perpetual manufactroversy machines.
The US is built on conspiratorial thinking. That'll never go away, but they've made a huge comeback in recent years. The flat-earthers and moon-landing skeptics of the past are now looking around going “WTF?!? This is crazy!”
The thing is that conspiracy theories tend to break down when we consider conspiracies involve people, time, and scope.
If the “conspiracy” takes a lot of time, then it will inevitably be found out. Conspiracies can be a slow burn, but they can only remain under wraps if there aren’t many people involved.
Because if it involves a lot of people, it is insane to think that it would never get out.
And if it involves a large scope, many locations, or too many elements, then there’s even less of chance the real story would be kept under wraps.
And if we consider removing any thing from the equation, would the whole thing crumble.
Take the Patriot Front for instance: If the PF were a “fed” operation, it would be the worst ROI being an extremely limited “psyop” that involves wayyy too many white boys out there without a single anybody leaking that they happen to be a huge “fed-op.” Leaked records show a group of goofballs spawned from another group of known white supremacists who were at the Unite the Right rally coordinating for years and years around the US. If this were all just a big “psyop” to make white nationalists look bad, then why? White Nationalists already do the job of making themselves look bad all by themselves. They don't need the government's help to make it worse, let alone a kid who just graduated college a few days earlier.
Seriously, check out the above link filled with 400+ GB of media and files. They include conversations PF members had with Proud Boy leaders discussing plans and coordinate actions, including Knuteson's chats with the some of Portland's high-ranked PBs. Or you can download it from DDOSecrets, a site conveniently banned from SpaceX owner's “free speech” platform.
But this is about Benjamin and how the “conspiracy” around him falls apart. The notion that him and many others remained hush-hush for at least a year while Mr. Brody simultaneously was undercover as both a student in a Southern California University and an active member in a Northern Oregon hate group and somehow fitting in around a year of training that would take him away from his schooling, is loony.
And the scope being regularly traveling 1,000 miles to make a small handful of goofs look bad. Granted, these goofs are connected with a pile of other goofs throughout the US. Which makes this conspiracy theory downright moronic. There's a whole bunch of these PF and PB dudes. So one has to go to great lengths to believe that the federal government spent a ton of resource to have videos of themselves training all these goofs in various places across the US over the last 6 or so years to make them look like goofs and all of the aggrieved white boys stayed quiet about it.
And one of them was a Jewish kid graduating with a BS in Anthropology that they flew up and down the west coast? And he was so instrumental that he had to be quickly flown in after walking across a graduation stage two days earlier because they couldn't get anyone closer to show up to an anti-LGBTQ hangout?
We mean this with all due offense...
This is brain-worm level stuff.
This is beyond ludicrous thinking of how things work with the government, time, and space.
And speaking of look-a-likes, take another gander at the photos of these PF goofballs. There's more than a few that look close enough to “unmasked guy #2” that you can have your pick of neo-Nazi doppelgangers. And yet none of them are Benjamin Brody.
(it is sort of awesome that not only does unmasked goof #2 have to keep his head down now, but many of his fellow antisemitic right-wingers also think he's Jewish)

PF losers


9chan

All this is yet another unwarranted outrage machine amplified by social media and the rage they have farmed is pointed at another innocent random person who could not have cared less about Oregon City but now has to deal with a barrage of hostility coming at him and his family.
The hypocrisy runs deep when the same guy who pronounced that his platform doesn't allow doxxing, has no issues with doxxing an innocent man who he has been suckered into believing is involved in a plot to smear his fellow antisemitic alt-Right buddies as the bad guys.
These angry twitter-folk have been riled up by a micro-blogging network quickly morphing into the newest chan and it's trust-fund turned government-contract-funded owner seems to embracing it with glee.
But they mad that there were Nazis at an anti-LGBTQ shindig. That's normal nowadays.
They're mad at the fever-dream notion of the FBI trying to make people, who these folk at least tacitly agree with, look bad.
And by extension, it makes them look bad.
Because in this nefarious plot to make hate groups actually look like hate groups they are the real “victims.”
So while the rest of us in reality are subject to their wrath, the bogeyman is yet again their own shadows.

dril


Luckily this seems to have remained an online debacle. And as debacles that arise suddenly from micro-blogging platforms, they tend to dissipate rather hastily. But these things sometimes have a way of spilling over into real-life-land. So we need to realize that what happens online still has real-world consequences.
We hope that Benjamin Brody comes out of this unscathed. These troubles may have sent him in an interesting and positive life direction. And luckily he seems to have a strong support from his former classmates. If you see this Ben, let us know if you'd like anything corrected. We tried to only look into enough details to confirm how preposterous this last week's social media silliness has been. Apologies for invading your personal life in anyway. We simply wanted to document the bullshit and point out that it is indeed bullshit.
Good luck out there.




P.S. The RCNC has offered to have a “mutual combat fight” with the PBs. Probably akin to what football supporter groups sometimes do in Europe. What an interesting turn of events that most of these MAGA normies also may have trouble wrapping their heads around.

PBvRCNC fight

P.P.S. We moved this last part because it felt like it was gumming up a portion of the above ramblings. But we've kept it because it was fun and we don't owe anybody anything:
So the great Amiri King followed up his initial stumble into the foray with an even more idiotic tweet tweet of “questions” which answering may illustrate the high level of “every thing I don't like is a fed” conspiracy theorists we're working with here:

Accused Patriot Front member, Ben Brody, has uploaded a video of himself denying any involvement with the hate group. Here's a list of my personal red flags: Ben Brody waited until he scrubbed his personal instagram down to 4 posts AND until he was removed entirely from his fraternity page before addressing the accusations by uploading this video. Why? What are you hiding?

  • the dipshits you sent were harassing Ben. The author has been harassed by QAnon & far-right bigots and shut down his accounts as well. It's a sane thing to do to stop harassment.

Photos of the side profile of your face?

  • ya, Ben doesn't owe you anything. The video was to tell you dweebs to piss off. Also, he doesn't need your stage direction, naked selfie pfp guy.

Ben mistakenly (I think intentionally) referred to Patriot Front as 'Patriotic Front.' Surely someone who just graduated with a degree in criminology from UC Riverside with the goal of working for the US government would know. EXACTLY who Patriot Front is, right? I believe he did that intentionally to mislead people.

  • Benjamin doesn't need to care what it's called. We call the PBs “Pud Boys” and PF the “PeeFront” on the regular. He's got better things to do and besides, he graduated with a BS of Anthropology. Anthropologists don't necessarily care about the PF. In fact, most LEOs we've talked to have no clue who they are and have only heard of the PBs. (although some of their coworkers happen to be members) We also know federal investigators that have no clue about the #altRight and their related apologists.
  • also, it's spelled “Rose City Nationalist Club”. Not “Patriot Front”. He can't that right. Great investigative skills there drug-dealing “instagram model”.

Ben's twitter account was active at the time of the skirmish with the Proud Boys. Now all of a sudden it's suspended? Why? Why is your Twitter account suspended? Also, why didn't you address this in the video when this is one of the burning questions?

  • buddy, settle down. You should ask Elmo about the suspension. I suppose it's shut down because of incoming harassment. We haven't spoken with Benjamin, but it's happened before.
  • quick question: why aren't your tweets searchable?
  • he posted the video after his family was harassed (see above). He didn't see your list of demanding questions. He doesn't live on #Twitter like you do. Nor does he care what a middle-aged naked man with 154,000 followers thinks. None of us do. But we totally believe that you would react in a perfect manner if we blamed something on you that wasn't true and then doxxed you. We get it, you'd of course be great at answering all the questions from all the thousands upon thousands of blue-checked wackos coming at like a swarm of stupid.

Last but not least. Ben's exaggerated hand gestures are a total red flag for me. I've spent too man years of my life locked up in prisons with toooo many liars for that to NOT catch my [eye]. That might be a stretch for some people, but it's telling to me.

  • ya, that's stretch. And we get it, if someone has been locked up they will either not tell a soul or they won't STFU about it. Of course you're one of the latter. We've worked with enough of them to know, they seriously won't let you forget it and will tell you how to make frito's pizzas and toilet wine, as if it's some kind of delicacy. No one that matters cares about your “special set of prison skills”.
  • Please, learn about the concept of self-awareness for once.

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an epilogue as of 31 May 2024...

A day or so after publishing this, we tossed a link for this post over to a Vice magazine journalist who had written the first decent article covering the Oregon City dust-up in hopes that he would at least pass this on to Ben.
(FUN FACT: Oregon City used to be the home of a white supremacist “Patriot” militia named “Republic v. Democracy Redress.” We wrote up a humongoid 4-part article on the racist history of the phrase “We are a Republic, Not a Democracy” which includes a mention of these lily-white weirdos. yay, Oregon City.)
A week later, the journalist, Mack Lamoureux, wrote an article focused on Ben’s situation which included a link to the Medium version of this post. That was nice.
We thought, like most online shenanigans, that may be the end of it and Ben at least had a better understanding of the silliness that was affecting his novice-anthropologist life. But a few months later, a Huffington Post article announced the filing of a lawsuit by Benjamin Brody against Elon Musk for libel.
We were taken aback when we found out that the attorney who took Ben’s case on was Mark Bankston, the fella who took on Alex Jones for the Sandy Hook parents. And phooey was the lawsuit an awesome read.
Also, rather cool to see this story covered by national and international news, from NPR to CNN to Bloomberg to Reuters to arstechnica to Forbes to Verve to the illustrious KnowYourMeme.
Even funner, is the current owner of X-twitter demonstrating for the court, his deep non-understanding of how things work and some other sketchy goofballness. His fan-club may not agree, but it really seems to be a bit of of a theme for him.
Extra neato to see tidbits we wrote up here getting used in a court case. Apparently, the screenshot that we had taken (but forgot to archive) of his reply to the ZeroHedge account is being used as consequential evidence. Fun stuff for sure.
Fingers & toes crossed for Benjamin.

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